John and Jesus

JOHN BAPTIST AND JESUS SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP
Appendix.9B
2023

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INTERRELATED LIVES OF JOHN AND JESUS

1.
God intentionally set a six month age difference between John the Baptist
and Jesus.  The record in Luke 1:35-36 shows John's mother Elizabeth was already miraculously six months pregnant when Mary first conceived Jesus .

"The angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore also the holy one which is born from you will be called the Son of God. Behold, Elizabeth, your relative, also has conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren. (WEB)

2.
Mary straight away visited Elizabeth, when the mothers-to-be meet, John while in the womb of Elizabeth reacted physically to the presence of the newly conceived foetus of Jesus in Mary's womb. 


"
Mary... entered into the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth. It happened, when Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. ... For behold, when the voice of your greeting came into my ears, the baby leaped in my womb for joy!" Luke 1:39-45 ,56 (WEB).
 
3.
This set a later working relationship between John and Jesus.  They both became priests John was a Levite his father Zechariah a Levitical priest at the temple in Jerusalem. 


"A certain priest named Zacharias, ...Now it happened, while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his division, according to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to enter into the temple of the Lord and burn incense.... An angel of (Yhwh) the Lord appeared to him, standing on the right side of the altar of incense... the angel said to him, "Don't be afraid, Zacharias, because your request has been heard, and your wife, Elizabeth, will bear you a son, and you shall call his name John... He will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb ... He will go before his face in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the heart of the father to t(His Sons) ... to make ready a people prepared for (Yhwh) the Lord."Luke 1:5-17 (WEB)

4.
Jesus was also a priest he
carried out the work of a 'Melchizedek like priest' on behalf of his God

"
Christ didn't glorify himself to be made a high priest, but He who said to him, "You are my Son. Today I have become your father." As he says also in another place, "You are a priest forever, After the order of Melchizedek." Hebrews 5:5-6 (WEB).

 
5.
According to God's law for priests, they needed to be 30 years old before they could take up priestly duties

"
Yahweh (Yhwh) spoke to Moses and to Aaron, saying," Take a census of the sons of Kohath from among the sons of Levi, by their families, by their fathers' houses, from thirty years old and upward even until fifty years old, all who enter into the service, to do the work in the Tent of Meeting" Numbers 4:1-3 (WEB).

6.
God scheduled Jesus appointment to commence priestly duties when he reached the age of 30.  Luke 3:23 says;
" Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry" (WEB)This was exactly six months after John started his priestly preparation ministry.  At Luke 3:1 it tells us that in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, John the Baptist commenced his ministry, when thirty years old.  According to historians the 15th year of Tiberius ran from the 16th of September 28AD  through to the 15th of September 29AD.  So John would have reached the age of 30 sometime between the 16th of September 28 and the 15th of September 29.  Jesus at the age of 30 was baptised by John in October of 29AD. John therefore must have started his special preparation work 6 months earlier in the April of 29AD.   








      
Chart 1c.                
JESUS AND JOHN'S INTERRELATED LIVES AND DATES



Birth of Jesus Jesus
Jesus early Baptised Death
October 2 BC early Oct 29 early April 33
|<---------30 years ----------->|<-------- 3 1/2 Years ------->|
| |1st Passover 3rd Passover |
| |April 30 April 32 |
___|_______________________________|____|________________|________|
| - - | | |
|<---------- 30 years --------->| | |
Birth of John starts 2nd 4th
John his ministry Passover Passover
April 2 BC April 29 April 31 April 33


  




              

            JOHN PREPARES THE WAY

7.
In the spring 29AD John at the age of 30 came out of his wilderness isolation and began his all important priestly preparation work.  God
's herald was to prepare the stage and many of the cast.  He had been instructed under spirit direction to separate himself from the various religious divisions of the Jews, Sadducees, Pharisees etc.  Under God's direction he lived isolated in the deserts until the time came for him to address Israel, 

"
The child grew, and grew strong in spirit, and was in the desert until the day of his public appearance to Israel" Luke 1:80 (WEB).

8.
Living in the desert with few comforts, clothed in camels hair, eating locusts and wild honey, he separated himself from the Jewish religious system and its traditions, living a solitary life.
  As had been prophesied,

"
As it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, "The voice of one crying in the wilderness, 'Make ready the way of the (Yhwh) Lord. Make his paths straight" Luke 3:4 (WEB) . 

When John reached the age of 30 God immediately directed him to start crying out a witness to Israel.  For six months from April of the year 29
he heralded this message from the wilderness exclusively to the covenanted Jewish people to repent and get ready.  According to John 1:23 he said,

"John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, “I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the (Yhwh) Lord." (WEB ).   This cry is already going out today!

John also declared
:
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” Matthew 3:2 (WEB)Again this cry is again going out now!

The reason to repent was in order to prepare oneself for the Kingdom, as the start for its construction  had come near.  This lined up individuals for a unique cancelling of their sin as they fell below Gods standards for Sons.  This was all to prepare people for a coming Messiah.





          
             'MESSENGER' PREPARES A GROUP, DIRECTING THEM TO JESUS.

9.
Those who listened, John primed into a group, alerting them to important fast approaching events.  The time was arriving when the long awaited foretold
Messiah of Yhwh was to appear.  From the various divisions of the Jewish religion John prepared and steered a responsive group towards the coming 'Messiah' for possible selection for a unique activity.

10.
God had already advertised this special preparation work nearly five hundred years earlier by his prophet Malachi.

"
I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me; and the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, behold, he comes!" says Yahweh (Yhwh) of hosts" Malachi 3:1 (WEB).

This messenger was compared to the prophet Elijah who lived nearly a thousand years before John. Elijah had worked hard at turning Israelites attitude back to serving Yhwh correctly. In Malachi 4:5-6 it tells us:


"
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and terrible day of Yahweh comes. He will turn the hearts of the Father to t(His Sons) ... and the hearts of the (Sons) to their Father, God" (WEB)
11.
The date of John's birth had been meticulously calculated and programmed so that he would be 6 months older than Jesus and so at the age of 30 in position to take on this six month preparation work
 

"
He will turn many of the children of Israel to (Yhwh) the Lord, their God. He will go before his face in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the heart of the Father to (His Sons) and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord." Luke 1:16-17 (WEB).





 
ANNOUNCEMENTS & PREPARATIONS  3 BC to 29 CE

  July 3 BC          January 2 BC      April 2 BC   October 2 BC               April 29            October 29
| | | | | |
 |    6 months  |    3 months  |  6 months  |  29 years 6 months   |    6 months    |
|__________________|________________|____________|_________________________|______________________|__

| | | | | |
|<--------------- 1 year 3 months -------------->| | |

| | | | | |
|<---------------------------------------------- 30 years 9 months ------->|<----- 6 months ---->|

| | | | | |

  John conceived Jesus conceived John Born Jesus Born John 30 years old   Jesus 30 years old

 announced as announced as announced to announced as     starts preparation   Baptised by John

 Messenger'   King of a Kingdom give advanced  Anointed, work baptising Anointed By God,

 like Elijah   would fall & rise preparation God's means     those prepared    people told by God

John receives power on saving of saving warns axe is in place to listen to him

       from Jesus from sin to cut down system
John at 6 months in
womb leapt at meeting
with Mary power transferred
 






JOHN'S "ELIJAH" AC
TIVITY

12.
A further part of John's assignment was to warn the apostate Jewish religious system
that the axe was already in position to chop it down.  John prophesied  " Even now the ax also lies at the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that doesn't bring forth good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire." Luke 3:9 (WEB) .

13.
John informed his followers that a far more important person than himself with greater rank and power would follow him, who would baptise with fire and spirit, separating people for selection by God. 
Yhwh instructed John to offer responding Jews something that up until then had not been done before, water baptism. A token symbolic act by individuals of a regretful attitude toward their previous transgressions of the Mosaic Law, failing to live up to its conditions.  Baptism was a public demonstration of an individual's repentant attitude over sins committed against the covenant, it did not remove their sins or wash them away.  It prepared them by lifting their heads and turning their hearts back to an appreciation of God in readiness to see His coming saving means, the Christ, who would be able to remove sin.  The Abraham 2,000 year contract was about to mature with benefits, individuals needed to sort themselves out in regard to the conditions and benefits of this contract. God directed John to offer baptism as a means of doing this.


GOD PROVIDED JOHN WITH PRIVILEGED INFORMATION
14.

John
"said: “
On the next day, he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:29 (WEB).  He was able to link the sacrificial Passover lamb to the removing of the entire worlds substandard condition (sin).

"This is he of whom I said, 'After me comes a man who (has advanced )  before me, for he (existed) before me.John 1:30 (WEB).   He must have been given information on Jesus prehuman existence.  God promised to give John a sign to look for so he could positively identify this coming Son of God, the Messiah as he said:

I didn't know him, but for this reason I came baptizing in water: that he would be revealed to Israel."John testified, saying, "I have seen the Spirit descending like a dove out of heaven, and it remained on him. I didn't (know who) ..., but He who sent me to baptize in water, he said to me, 'On whoever you will see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.'I have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God." John 1:31-34 (WEB).

15.
Six months after John, Jesus reached the age of 30, and so qualified to start his priestly duties.  His opening appointment on the world stage had now arrived, confirmed directly by God at his unique baptism in October of the year 29, exactly 6 months after John started his preparation baptism work. 
Johns identifying sign also had audible confirmation.

 "
and the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily form, as a dove on him; and a voice came out of the sky, saying "You are my beloved Son. In you I am well pleased (I have approved you)Luke 3:22 (WEB) .

16.
Some two months after baptising Jesus, John started handing over his specially 'prepared' disciples to him, identifying Jesus as the great sacrificial Passover lamb that would remove Adamic sin and its death dealing effects from the world, 

"On the next day, he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" John 1:29 (WEB).

17.
Approximately a year later in the summer of 30 John was imprisoned by Herod.  By then his advertising and preparation work had been completed.  The 500 year old prophecy of Malachi 
had been fulfilled.

""Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me; and the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, behold, he comes!" says Yahweh." Malachi 3:1 (WEB)

18.
While John was in prison some months before he was executed Jesus confirmed the importance of John's assignment.   He said John's work up until then was the most important that had ever been done by anybody on God's behalf.  No one had served God in a greater capacity than John the Baptist, including men who were friends of God such as Noah, Abraham, and Moses, such was the importance of John's assignment.  Nevertheless, Jesus pointed out he would not be one of those specially selected for the Kingdom government as all would hold higher rank than him, 


"Most assuredly I tell you, among those who are born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptizer; yet he who is least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he" Mat 11:11 (WEB). 

 Jesus understood, according to God's script, that John the Baptist would be dead before the new Kingdom contract opened at Pentecost of the year 33.  This took the opportunity out of John's time frame otherwise John would certainly have been one of the first in line for inclusion.

19.
It seems John was aware that he would not be part of the "Bride" group of Kingdom selected ones.  As he referred to himself as being a friend of the bridegroom when he said -

"He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom's voice. This, my joy, therefore is made full" John 3:29 (WEB).  

When John heard about the things Jesus was saying and doing he enjoyed a great deal of pleasure and felt completely happy with it.

20.
John's life was entirely tied up with Jesus.  His preparation work the most important carried out by anyone; up until that time, no one had done a greater work on God's behalf than John, ref
John the Baptist's Ministry. A major prophecy Jesus pronounced, was that another future John the Baptist would carry out  preparation and baptism work in our 21st century. Herod beheaded John around March 32 after he had been in prison for almost 2 years. In the summer of 32AD Jesus disciples asked him: "Why do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?" (WEB).

Jesus answered them, "Elijah indeed comes first, and will restore all things, (future tense) but I tell you that Elijah has come already, and they didn't recognize him, (past tense) but did to him whatever they wanted to. Even so will the Son of Man also suffer by them."Then the disciples understood that he spoke to them of John the Baptizer" Mat 17:11-13 (WEB).


Comparison -  “(Jesus) answered, “On the one hand, Eliyahu is coming and will restore all things; (future tense) on the other hand, I tell you that Eliyahu has come already, and people did not recognize him (past tense)”(CJB).





A FUTURE JOHN THE BAPTIST WORK


21.
In 2BC, Jesus, while in the womb, passed power to John in readiness for his special assignment; this created a leaping reaction in John, while in Elizabeth’s womb.  Two thousand years later in 1999, a power generated leap in understanding the Kingdom's timetable took place according to this prophetic pattern.  By 1999, understanding that both the Abraham and Kingdom contracts each last 2,000 years and run consecutively had been understood.  That the second Kingdom contract that commenced in 33 would end after 2000 years in 2033, when all Kingdom recruiting will have had to have been completed.  This along with new announcements, were posted on the world Internet.  Lights were beginning to be turned on in dark places;  these Elijah announcements will alert individuals throughout the Christian world.
 

22.
This second John the Baptist preparation work also takes place from a quarantined “wilderness” like situation, separated from all Christian religions
ref Second John Baptist. As John, started his preparation work in April 29, so we can expect 2,000 years later the modern ‘John the Baptist’ to, again carry out dedication  baptisms for six months from April 2029 (29 + 2,000 years).  This again involves readying followers for Kingdom preparation, not this time from covenanted Judaism, but from the Christian covenant claiming religions.  Misleading understandings caused by false teachings straightened out, obstacles caused by religious traditions removed.  Information on God’s developing plans will smooth the approach to the Messiah's second recruiting activity.  Good news from God about the Kingdom's timetable will be publicised  with announcements on order to get ready for the Kingdom of the heavens is close.
23.
Individuals will be able to prepare with the assistance of the late spirit rain which will again start to fall on receptive minds
opening them up  by the power of the spirit, ref Early and late rain. They acquire new understanding on the Kingdom timetable and the date for Jesus second presence, October 2029. Changing past erroneous attitudes and actions, taking a positive position to starting a new life, one leading to forgiveness of their death causing sin and non ending life.  During the 6 months from April to October 2029 the baptism of Christ into his death will be validated by God and made available to them. Those who undergo this baptism  will transfer under Jesus care during his presence with them from October 2029.  It is not possible through man’s independent ability to fully understand this ‘new wine’ of  Kingdom concepts, it is only able to be comprehended by God’s power opening the mind, as was the case 2,000 years earlier Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures” Luke 24:45 (WEB).

24.
John fulfilled the Elijah preparation work that God arranged in the first century.   Jesus prophesied another Elijah work to come in the future ref Second John Baptist.  Again, announcing and preparing individuals for the second presence of Jesus in October 2029 in connection with the Kingdom contract. Now! from April 2026 this second John will be announcing and preparing many today, will you be one of them?

Refs.
 
KINGDOM OPPORTUNITIES
FOR CHRISTIANS OF ALL DENOMINATION


REVEALING THE SONS OF GOD

FURTHER EVIDENCE ON THE DATE OF JESUS BIRTH



ALERT!  Ref. JESUS SECOND PRESENCE STARTS OCTOBER 2029






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                                           KINGDOM STUDIES              

KINGDOM STUDY 1      KINGDOM OPPORTUNITIES  FOR CHRISTIANS


KINGDOM STUDY  2    "SECRET MYSTERIES OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD"
 

KINGDOM STUDY 3     "A LATE SECOND HARVEST"


KINGDOM STUDY 4      REVEALING THE SONS OF GOD Romans 8:19 


KINGDOM STUDY 5      THE TEMPLE OF GOD  Ephesians 2-21

KINGDOM STUDY 6      DATING THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS

KINGDOM STUDY 7      CONSTRUCTION PLAN FOR GOD'S TEMPLE

KINGDOM STUDY 8      BAPTISED INTO JESUS DEATH  Romans 6:3-4.




                                      RESEARCH PAPERS
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  RESEARCH PAPER No 10  SECOND JOHN THE BAPTIST

RESEARCH PAPER No 11  REVELATION BEAST'S HEAD HEALED


RESEARCH PAPER No 12  TEMPLE RAISED IN THREE DAYS, AND
                                              THE FIRST SECOND AND THIRD DAYS
 

RESEARCH PAPER No 13  MIRACULOUS HARVEST OF 144,000


RESEARCH PAPER No 14  FLOOD; WHY DESTROY A WORLD?


RESEARCH PAPER No 19  IDENTIFYING WISE AND STUPID SERVANTS

RESEARCH PAPER No 34  EARLY AND LATE RAIN?   James 5:9

RESEARCH PAPER No 38  NEANDERTHAL, NEPHILIM? 

RESEARCH PAPER No 40. WHAT IS ORIGINAL SIN? IS IT INHERITED? 

RESEARCH PAPER No 45. WATER CANOPY PRE FLOOD  


                            APPENDIX SUBJECTS
 

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APPENDIX 1   TRUTH DIES WITH APOSTLES


APPENDIX 1A  APOSTASY & CREED DOCTRINES


APPENDIX 2   PROTESTANT FIRST AWAKENING


APPENDIX 3   ISAAC NEWTON BIBLE SCHOLAR 


APPENDIX 4   WILLIAM WHISTON


APPENDIX 5   JOHN DARBY


APPENDIX 6   WILLIAM MILLER


APPENDIX 7   CHARLES RUSSELL


APPENDIX 8   HUMAN LIFE SPAN Can Ageing be Stopped


APPENDIX 8A  CANOPY BREAKS UP AT FLOOD


APPENDIX 9    DANIEL'S 70 WEEKS


APPENDIX 9A  JOHN BAPTIST'S MINISTRY
 

APPENDIX 9B  JOHN BAPTIST & JESUS
 

APPENDIX 9C  WHEN WAS JESUS BORN
 

APPENDIX 10   BIBLE FINAL GENERATION


APPENDIX 11   SCRIPTURE CLEAN UP 


APPENDIX 12   607 + 2,520 YEARS = 1914


APPENDIX 18   BIBLE "GENTILE TIMES"

APPENDIX  24   REVELATION DELAYED RELEASE


APPENDIX  25  TRANSFIGURATION

APPENDIX  26  CLOTHED WITH POWER

APPENDIX  27  UNFORGIVABLE SIN

APPENDIX  30  50,000 YEAR JUBILEE CYCLE

APPENDIX  31   8,000 YEAR TIME FRAME

APPENDIX  32   4,000 YEAR KINGDOM PLAN

APPENDIX  33  THE 50 YEAR JUBILEE PATTERN 

APPENDIX  35  ORIGINAL SIN

APPENDIX  36  TRINITY?

APPENDIX  37  IMMORTAL SOUL?

APPENDIX  38  BIBLE HELL?

APPENDIX  39  2 COVENANTS, EACH  2,000 YEARS

APPENDIX  40  THE OVER LAPPING GENERATION.

APPENDIX  41 JESUS BATTLE PREVIEWS WAR

APPENDIX  42  JESUS PREVIEWS HIS CORONATION

APPENDIX  43  EXCOMMUNICATE, DISFELLOWSHIP, APOSTASY

APPENDIX  44  KEYS TO THE KINGDOM: USED AGAIN?

APPENDIX  45  LAZARUS PATTERN

APPENDIX  46  HOW TO RESURRECT ALL WHO HAVE DIED





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